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'Star Trek' Gets A 'Star Wars' Makeover: Is The Line Being Blurred?
New movie has more action, more special effects — courtesy of George Lucas' ILM.
Posted By Larry Carroll Thu, 07 May 2009 14:41:59 GMT
Chris Pine and Karl Urban in "Star Trek"
Chris Pine and Karl Urban in "Star Trek"
Photo: Paramount Pictures

BEVERLY HILLS, California — For two decades, the sacred realms of "Star Trek" and "Star Wars" ruled the sci-fi universe as two separate and distinct entities. Most people worshipped one or the other — and which one you chose spoke volumes about you.

"Star Trek," it was typically argued, was a scientific look at what the future could be — a brainy, sometimes dry depiction of humanity's endless quest to go where no man had gone before. When "Star Wars" was launched in 1977, it depicted an epic galaxy from long ago and far, far away; its over-the-top aliens and beaten-up spaceships were irreverent, action-packed and gritty.

But now that George Lucas has released three antiseptic prequels and self-professed "Star Wars" fan J.J. Abrams is unveiling his sleek, sexy new "Star Trek" movie this weekend, is the line being blurred? And is this a good thing?

"That was the fun of it," Abrams explained to us recently. "[I] was trying to combine both of those elements and make a movie that wasn't like a 'Star Wars' movie but felt that it had more pace and action than certain 'Star Trek' movies had."

Perhaps as a result, Captain Kirk is chased down on an ice planet by an enormous creature, Wampa-style. An early scene introduces Uhura at a bar populated by hard-drinking aliens. And in one key scene, the villain proves his ruthlessness by destroying the home planet of a key character.

"In our early conversations, [co-writer] Alex [Kurtzman] kept saying, 'We have to put a little "Star Wars" into our "Star Trek," ' " remembered Roberto Orci, who wrote the film with Kurtzman. "It was our chocolate and our peanut butter, kind of getting into each other."

It didn't take a Spock-like genius to figure out that the geek-embracing tone of "Trek" had grown stale by 2001/2002 — the period in which a movie ("Nemesis") and TV show ("Enterprise") were both released to bad reviews and an indifferent fanbase — while Lucas' franchise continued raking in hundreds of millions of dollars annually.

" 'Star Trek' has promised an adventure that it didn't always have the resources to deliver," Abrams said, saying that Lucas' financial success and independence couldn't be approached by the "Trek" franchise in those days. "So there was a lot of talk about stuff — which probably makes for more creative decisions, and you have to be smarter, more dramatic, and there's less of an easy way out — but you can't rely on spectacle."

"We're not going to lie to you: We were massive 'Star Wars' fans as much as we were 'Star Trek' fans," added Kurtzman, who said the three all agreed early on that "Trek" needed to be sleeker and faster for its reboot. "What I needed to see as an audience member now — given what I think audiences are used to — was a space battle that was about speed. And 'Star Wars' was always a little more about speed, a little more rock-and-roll than 'Trek.' "

Meanwhile, starting with 1999's "The Phantom Menace" and progressing through the new "Clone Wars" film and cartoon show, the "Star Wars" universe has traded in its rock-and-roll looseness for stiffer dialog, lifeless CGI sets and the sort of complicated story lines that used to be the hallmark of "Trek." To further blur the line between the two franchises, Abrams sought special-effects help from none other than the "Star Wars" mastermind himself.

"ILM, George Lucas' company, did the visual effects. They are incredible," Abrams gushed.

" 'Trek' was always about slow naval battles. ... What was really cool about 'Star Wars' was it was all about dogfights," Kurtzman said. "We thought, 'There has got to be a way to combine those two things.' "

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STAR WARS!
Posted By: Tina
Okay, Star Trek is sooo not Star Wars. I get pissed every time I see a commercial saying the Star Trek is this generation of Star Wars! Nothing beats Star Wars!!
Mon Jun 1, 2009 12:44pm
STAR WARS <3
Posted By: sarah :)
its all about star wars! no conmpetition there.no comparison made.
Mon May 18, 2009 7:12pm
Star Wars vs Star Trek
Posted By: Martin
I have been a fan of Star Wars and StarTrek, almost all my life. One of the first movie memories was seeing Princess Leia's ship being gunned down by Vader's. I too heve never understood the rivalry between the two franchises/fan base. They should each be taken as they are and if you want to criticize, then make your own damn movies. All of the movies and bits and pieces for both SW and ST are great for what they are. This newest Star Trek was genious because, not only did it revive the (in my opinion) best crew but it allowed itself a new opening and life because it is now part of a different timeline, which is a big premis on a lot of Star Trek shows. I have to give Kudos to J. J. Abrams for doing such a great job. To all of you bitter Nancy's who had their "childhood" ruined by the Star Wars and Indian Jones franchises, it is obvious you never matured and are still there. Grow up and enjoy other peoples visions for what they are, THEIR visions. May the Force be with you and Live Long and Prosper!
Sun May 17, 2009 6:27pm
Hmm
Posted By: Kristopher
Like another reader said, I'll never understand the whole Star Trek vs. Star Wars mentality. I like both."'ILM, George Lucas' company, did the visual effects. They are incredible,'"They act as if this is a new concept. ILM was responsible for the effects work in multiple Trek movies, such as The Motion Picture and The Undiscovered Country.
Thu May 14, 2009 9:07pm
The Force was with JJ.....
Posted By: darthlaker
Let's hope George Lucas watches the new Trek film to see how to reinvigorate a genre. Lucas' prequels were absolute garbage.
Thu May 14, 2009 8:34am
Old News
Posted By: kat
This comparison was already made, much better btw, on AICN.
Sat May 9, 2009 8:07pm
TRek Wars
Posted By: Alan
I grew up with both and I have always enjouyed gooing to other worlds Trek was all it could be when it came out The Tech os the time die not allow for more the what Gene gave us if there was more themn we would have had more than 3 seasnos of Treck. Star Wars had cutting edge tech and it proved it by always pushing the envelope not A reinvented TReck is out and It is not your daddys trek but it is good may be it will be better
Sat May 9, 2009 3:51pm
Star Trek on Steroids
Posted By: Generation ADHD
This movie FRICKIN ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!
Sat May 9, 2009 3:03am
Star Wars vs. Star Trek
Posted By: Rapmaster
Between the two realms I think that Star Trek is pretty cool but Star Wars is cool two. Since the Clone Wars came out it had been the first tv series to come out, against the different kinds of Star Trek tv series. Now since in the future I know that their will be a new Star Wars tv series that is live action and I can't wait for it to come out. But on the other hand what if their was a tv Series for the Star Trek from the new movie. Well then their will be a Tv series war between the two to earn the highest ratings.(For the future)
Fri May 8, 2009 10:45pm
Prayin' 4 Better Not ButErr!
Posted By: fallenjedi23
I'm Star Wars fan through and through. Though I like the Star Trek as well. I really don't know where all the fighting between the two realms started, but I for one am glad that they're both still going.Hopefully this new installment will give fans something to watch and enjoy! Not something to disect and ponder where it fits within the puzzle of the timeline, or story continuity.That's what really upset me about the Clone Wars movie and new cartoon series. It deviated from the storyline that has been so well protected for the past thirty years.
Fri May 8, 2009 9:23pm
the undiscovered country
Posted By: deakon frostt
while not as jaded as my fellow true trek fan , i am worried. after being disappointed by the child like quality of the new starwars flicks, i approach the new and revamped startrek with dreadful caution. It may turn out to be cinematic gold like the rebirth of the batman, or it could be a steaming turd covered in special effects like phantom something or other. hopefully we wont need three avarage prequals to make one good story. may the force live long and prosper, boldy going where hokey religions and anicent weapons have gone before.
Fri May 8, 2009 7:54pm
Unnecessary
Posted By: Appleby Mennym
This attempt to dummy down the original Star Trek for Generation Y (and no doubt the term "edgy" used in the descriptive material means "sexually explicit and containing obscene language") is an unnecessary attempt to cash in on something that is now historical and should be left as is. The constant attempt to dummy down or tart up Boomer Favourites so that the ADHD Generation can understand them, without any idea why we liked them in the first place, has first attacked Doctor Who and now this? I am a pioneer trekkie and I have no interest at all in seeing Star Trek For Dummies.
Thu May 7, 2009 11:29am
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